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Day 12: Celebrated Expert in Religious History Testifies TEC Holds No Control Over Dioceses PDF Print E-mail

CELEBRATED EXPERT IN RELIGIOUS HISTORY TESTIFIES TEC HOLDS NO CONTROL OR SUPREME AUTHORITY OVER DIOCESES

Rebuttal Witness testifies that the words “Protestant Episcopal Church” preceded the existence of TEC in both England and the United States.


ST. GEORGE, SC, JULY 24, 2014 – On the 13th day of the trial of the Diocese of South Carolina vs. The Episcopal Church and its local subsidiary, The Episcopal Church in South Carolina, a director of The Historical Society of the Episcopal Church testified that the denomination has no supreme control over its dioceses or parishes, countering TEC claims to the contrary.

Dr. Allen C. Guelzo, who is also a professor of history at Gettysburg College, an expert on the history of religious organizations including TEC and the author of 16 books, said that TEC’s authority is “prescriptive,” which means the denomination can advise its dioceses but cannot order them to do anything.
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Day 13: Celebrated Expert in Religious History Testifies TEC Holds No Control Over Dioceses PDF Print E-mail

CELEBRATED EXPERT IN RELIGIOUS HISTORY TESTIFIES TEC HOLDS NO CONTROL OR SUPREME AUTHORITY OVER DIOCESES

Rebuttal Witness testifies that the words “Protestant Episcopal Church” preceded the existence of TEC in both England and the United States.


Day 13 of trial

ST. GEORGE, SC, JULY 24, 2014 – On the 13th day of the trial of the Diocese of South Carolina vs. The Episcopal Church and its local subsidiary, The Episcopal Church in South Carolina, a director of The Historical Society of the Episcopal Church testified that the denomination has no supreme control over its dioceses or parishes, countering TEC claims to the contrary.

Dr. Allen C. Guelzo, who is also a professor of history at Gettysburg College, an expert on the history of religious organizations including TEC and the author of 16 books, said that TEC’s authority is “prescriptive,” which means the denomination can advise its dioceses but cannot order them to do anything.
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Day 12: TEC Uses Bishop vonRosenberg to Claim Dioceses Can't Leave PDF Print E-mail
Court Day 12DAY 12: DIOCESE OF SC v. THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH

TEC USES BISHOP vonROSENBERG TO AGAIN CLAIM  “DIOCESES CAN’T LEAVE”

Judge Says, “I Won’t Try that Case. It’s Neutral Principles”


ST. GEORGE, SC, JULY 23, 2014 – On the 12th day of the trial of the Diocese of South Carolina vs. The Episcopal Church and its local subsidiary, The Episcopal Church in South Carolina, TEC attorney David Beers attempted to introduce the concept of church hierarchy once again into the trial, ignoring Judge Diane S. Goodstein’s repeated rulings that church hierarchy plays no role in this case.

Beers asked the first provisional bishop of TECSC, Charles vonRosenberg, to tell the court why the Bishop of San Joaquin, Ca., the Rt. Rev. John David Schofield had been removed as bishop of that diocese.

Judge Goodstein said, “It’s not relevant. For this reason: I don’t know what [that] state’s position is regarding the analysis of church disputes. I don’t really care. What I care about is the state of South Carolina. My Supreme Court tells me what I do when I analyze church disputes.’
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Day 11: TEC Spends Day Making Arguments Judge Rules Irrelevant PDF Print E-mail

Mary Koste, Henrietta Golding and Susan Macdonald



DAY 11: DIOCESE OF SC v. THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH

TEC Spends Day Making Arguments that Judge Rules Irrelevant to the Case


Denomination’s Attorneys Continue to Attempt to Introduce “Hierarchy” Arguments, Ignoring the Fact that South Carolina Courts Do Not Recognize Them


ST. GEORGE, SC, JULY 22, 2014 – Attorneys for The Episcopal Church and its local subsidiary, The Episcopal Church in South Carolina, spent the eleventh day, of a trial to prevent TEC's seizure of local church property, attempting to introduce testimony that the Circuit Court has repeatedly dismissed as irrelevant.

The entire morning was spent with TEC’s lead attorney, David Beers, asking Mark Duffy, Canonical Archivist and Director of Archives for the national church, to identify documents discussing TEC’s financial contributions to the Diocese, the denomination’s hierarchical structure that does not permit dioceses to withdraw and other topics, attracting repeated objections from diocesan attorneys.
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Day Ten: TEC Attorney Admits Constitution Does Not Prevent a Diocese from Leaving; Walter Edgar Testifies PDF Print E-mail
Dr. Walter EdgarDAY 10: DIOCESE OF SC v. THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH

TEC Attorney Admits TEC Constitution Does Not Prevent a Diocese From Leaving the Denomination

Judge Refuses to Consider Evidence about Whether TEC is Hierarchical


ST. GEORGE, SC, JULY 21, 2014 – An attorney for The Episcopal Church on Monday acknowledged that – despite TEC’s repeated claim that dioceses may not leave the denomination – there is nothing in the group’s constitution that specifically prohibits such a disassociation.

“It’s true it doesn’t say whether a diocese in the U.S. can or cannot [leave],” said Mary Kostel, attorney for TEC. “It’s arguably ambiguous.”

The comment came during the 10th day of trial in suit to prevent TEC from seizing the property of the Diocese of South Carolina and its parishes.  Much of the morning was spent in a discussion between attorneys and Judge Diane S. Goodstein about the admissibility of testimony by historian Walter Edgar, a professor at the University of South Carolina.
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